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quote: 1,If a 3-phase AC motor happen to have the bad design where rotor bars and stator slots are the same number (28), will it be more sensitive to broken rotor bars sound wise?
Same number of rotor bars and stator slots without skewing would cause torque oscillation at bar pass frequency. With skewing, I'm not sure. I have a hard time seeing how it would change sensitivity to broken bar. quote: 2. Would a hi resistance rotor bar be hotter or colder than the others in a cast aluminum rotor? Olov
If you are applying current or doing loop test, I think it could go either way. Certainly for a complete open circuit, it will be cooler. For a high resistance it is going to be hotter right at the hot location but not necessarily all along the bar. Look for differences. There are quite a variety of tools available to check rotors. A pretty comprehensive discussion here: http://www.pumpingmachinery.co..._29/rotortesting.pdf
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| Posts: 4027 | Location: Texas Gulf Coast | Registered: 20 February 2005 |    |
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Thank´s for the input. Test was done by full load in the stator with normal operation 4200 RPM, 142Hz LF, VFD drive and stripping rotor and therm cam photo directly, that is tricky due to shiny surface. I was also betting on bad bar being cooler. I wanted to confirm what I was looking for, on the other hand yo can see hot spots by the eye on the rotor surface, eg. burn marks that is close to hi temp on therm cam photo. Yes stator got 28 slots (as I have been told) and it´s a special application not a industrial motor and the rotor bars are skewed. Problem is the intermittent noise from the assy including gbx, in some cases, it may be the other way around so that "good motors" rotorbar wise give the noise and the bad does not? It is also in most cases different running forward or backward, that I don´t see a reason for, part from that the gbx is designed to run best in one direction and axial postion change due to spiral gear. So the equal no of bars and slots is disturbing me but not all units have hi noise, only some and they also have hi gearmesh vibration from the connected gbx. Gearmesh can always be heard but the intermittent noise is only in some units and in some a constant grinding/growling. Good assys give good wear patterns on gbx teeth (eye shaped and centered on teeth), bad give a axial and radial dispersed wear pattern. I will try to confirm torsion "vibration" data on Monday to possibly confirm rotational irregular behaviour. Or not. Olov
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| Posts: 958 | Location: Linköping | Registered: 03 October 2004 |    |
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