Hi,

Can anybody know how to assign the equipment load in equipment master & after displaying t-code IE03 we should get the summation of total
equipments load or is there any other alternative, pl. give your feedback.

best regards,

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What do you mean by equipment loads? Running hours? Pls give examples.

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Originally posted by Josh:
What do you mean by equipment loads? Running hours? Pls give examples.

Dear Josh,

I mean to say the connected load of the equipment. e.g. say if A equipments has load 20KW then I required to define this in equipment master & If there are 100 equipments in plant then user can get the summation of all connected loads.

thanks,

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Ok, I think you need to use the object link & network to get load summation. Somebody needs to test.

Do you use functional hierarchy?

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Josh,

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Originally posted by Josh:
Ok, I think you need to use the object link & network to get load summation. Somebody needs to test.

Do you use functional hierarchy?

Dear Mr.Josh,

Thanks for your reply,Please explore how the object link will help me to make this scenario.

We are not using functional hierarchy.

best regards,

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Are you a SAP PM user, expert user, analyst, or IT person? Why do you need the sum figure from SAP PM? Can you not get it from the generated power meter there and also from calculation?

Can you not explore in testing region whether it's possible once you interlinked and networked your equipment such as generators?

What industry are you in, is it power generation?

We create an equipment class with characteristics being the fields normally found on an equipment datasheet. See example attached for a motor.

Equipment_Class.bmp (1,254 Kb, 30 downloads) Equipment Classification

I would like to discuss about Class and Characteristic of Functional Location & Equipment because many specification of equipment are link to measurement point and measurement document in PM inspection

If I need the SAP alert or warning when measuring value over the setting point in measure point, SAP can do this?

Do you want to test it first?

I heard SAP PM can be interfaced with DCS so the measurement points can have the setpoints in DCS. Thus a work order can be triggered if the measurement and thus the set point value is exceeded in DCS eg vibration limits.

On the issue of equipment loads, I agree with David in Australia - Class and Characteristics are the way to go. You will then be able to use IH08, say, to enter a pre-defined class followed by the required value against the characteristic 'load'.

As regards whether or not SAP will alert you when a measuring value over the set point is entered. I believe that the SAP help is misleading. It talks about Measuring points and counters but in reality only counters can be set up in maintenance plans to generate an auto-work order. For something being controlled around a set point (where many entered measuring documents over time may be at/ above/ below the set point I do not believe there is a way in standard SAP to get the system to auto-generate work orders. The best that you can do is set up the measuring point in such a way that the desired set point is shown to the user who enters the measuring document. Does anyone know any different?

I have no experience of automatically supplying continuous measuring point data direct to SAP.

quote:

Originally posted by Josh:
Are you a SAP PM user, expert user, analyst, or IT person? Why do you need the sum figure from SAP PM? Can you not get it from the generated power meter there and also from calculation?

Can you not explore in testing region whether it's possible once you interlinked and networked your equipment such as generators?

Dear Josh,

Sorry to reply late, I am SAP Plant maint.functional main core member. The
requirement is from our top management.
We have 16 group companies at different
locations & management wants to see the
comapnywise connected load. I know the
characteristics, I had alsoe tried through it
prepare the characteristics as " Connected Load"
& assigned the equipment wise load to it but still unable to make the summation equipmentwise.

Pl. guide me

best regards,

Hemanta

Are those generators physically connected by a grid? Why do top management want to see the total laod? Isn't this total load obtainable from a power meter at site?

I do not believe in an universal shoe (one size fits all) and especially selled by ERP systems, although they will claim other wise
In my opinion SAP (and others) cannot process real-time data

Hemant we are undergoing a similar traject and brought the data out of the control room (DCS of oil Refinery) to other stakeholders (process engineers, plant mgmt, maintenance etc..) to make decissions.

Years ago when we were prospecting the possibilities, we visited an Alcoa plant that was using PI

http://www.osisoft.com/Products/PI%20System/

Corporate Headquarters (Pittsburgh) is able to see the product levels and many more. Using microsoft office products (Excel).

My impressions:
I saw a lot of custom made excel sheets with visual objects (Tanks, reactors etc..) combined with trend graphs.

Words of a production superintendent:

In the past when a spill was "reported" I had to investigate and tell mgmt what happened

Today Mgmt open their spreadsheet take a glance at the trends after the first cup of coffee, pick up the phone and demands explanation about the missing 300 ton ... (fill in the blanks) in their short absense of 16 hours.


In resume:
1) It brought transparency in the process from bottom to top
2) The usual "high speed cover-up operation" 3-o'clock in the morning, before the day crews arrive is not effective anymore

I doubt that a financial analysis, at the end of the month when the accountants are smelling at the numbers comparing costs and revenues could come to the root cause


By the way we chosed matrikon, which does the same

http://www.matrikon.com/products/decision-support.aspx

Do you use all the Matrikon products especially ProcessDoctor?