Somebody use SAP-PM for 2 plant to maintenance management? If any, how do you config your system?

PS. our company use SAP not only PM module

You need to config your SAP for multisites. Are you an IT background?

We setup SAP R/3 4.6 for three plants (currently one plant was sold and we still run R/3 for two plants).

The multiple plants were defined with warehouses, cost centers, main work centers, functional locations, etc. following the structure by plant. And we are running Finance, Production Planning, Procurement, Human Resources, etc. with SAP, not only trhe PM module.

For example:
Functional locations were defined with four levels, 1st level is plant, second is building or external plant area, the last two levels are subdivisions of locations at that building or area.

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Originally posted by Josh:
You need to config your SAP for multisites. Are you an IT background?

I've a good background in IT, but 2 site for single system is difficut to solve because core policy is accouting module not maintenance module.

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Originally posted by Eugene:
We setup SAP R/3 4.6 for three plants (currently one plant was sold and we still run R/3 for two plants).

The multiple plants were defined with warehouses, cost centers, main work centers, functional locations, etc. following the structure by plant. And we are running Finance, Production Planning, Procurement, Human Resources, etc. with SAP, not only trhe PM module.

For example:
Functional locations were defined with four levels, 1st level is plant, second is building or external plant area, the last two levels are subdivisions of locations at that building or area.

2 site have separate equipment number but have single team to manage (planner, maintainer and engineering)

In our setup, the equipment numbers format for the three plants (now two plants) has some slight differences to ensure that numbers are not repeated between plants. If is just one database so it can not be a cooling water pump in plant 1 with the same equipment number of a fire water pump in plant 2. There is just one equipment database for all the plants.

For example:
* Plant A equipment numbers start with a 3 digits, no dashes "-" are used at Plant A numbers.
* Plant B equipment numbers starts with a 2 digits Location code followed by a dash.
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We setup :
* One Maintenance Plant in SAP for each physical plant.
* One Planning plant in SAP for each physical plant.
Reason: We have one planner in plant A, and three planners in plant C (plant B was sold, it had curiously 2 planners at the time of sale). We also have one Maintenance Supervisor with a crew in plant 1, and several Maintenance Supervisors in plant C each one leading a crew.

During the implementation we consider setting up just one Planning Plant for plants A and C, and a second Planning plant for plant B, but dropped the idea. Better to mimic in SAP what is really going on in reality.
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If the maintenance planning is run with the same staff/team for two plants you could set:
* Two Maintenance Plants
* One Planning Plant for both

Eugene, I would like to ask you more.

How about Company code for serveral plant?
How about Business area for serveral plant?

as the same code?

Eugene, Could you please show organization map for objects (begin top level to equipment level)?

Is this what you are looking for?

Level 1: Company code: 0001 ?

Level 2: Plants
* Each Physical Plant is Plant in SAP
Plant 1 = PL01?
Plant 2 = PL02?

Level 3: Maintenance Plant
* Each plant in SAP has a Maintenance Plant associated. To this Maintenance Plant the functional locations and equipment will be attached later.
We used the same codes used at Plants, for this example:
Maint Plant 1 = PL01
Maint Plant 2 = PL02

Level 4: Plannng Plant
* Here you have to decide if one Planning Plant ofr both plants or each Maintenance Plant will have its own Planning Plant. If you run the planning of both plants with the same team of Planners I would set just one plant.

Again same codes used

Planning Plant 1 = PL01 (if your planning staff located at this plant).

Level 5: Planners Groups
Planners Groups are defined by Planning Plant. If you set just one planning plant, then you can set Planning Group 001 for the first plant, and Planner Group 002 for the second plant.

We used Planner Groups 010, 020, and 030 and assigned one to each Planning Plant.
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Apart of these, we set a warehouse for Spare Part at each plant.

Aromatics, a training by SAP would be beneficial if you wish to see the overall picture rather than piece by piece.

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Originally posted by Josh:
Aromatics, a training by SAP would be beneficial if you wish to see the overall picture rather than piece by piece.

Josh, I agree with your suggestion but now my boss need to know the impossible for implement single system for 2 or 3 plant site. In case one team for serveral plant maintenance service, I start my plan to paperless for SAP-PM, so I would like to ask new question about how to implement step-by-step the paperless conceptual? I've read some forum about Mobile device, it can provide my concept?

Yes, SAP can cover many plants.

For paperless, do you mean you want to use portable devices which can be carried along to sites to avoid printing?

I do not mean that but I'm not sure when implement paperless necessary use portable device. I think if good configuration in SAP-PM, it can be solved.

You are not sure if portable devices are required in paperless system ???

Technicians need to know which instructions are established in this order, for the equipment that is up there over the roof of the building.
Options:
* Paper based system:
*** The Maintenance Order is printed in paper and the technician will carry it to the roof to execute the order and document any other findings, actions made, relevant data/comments. Also to record the required signatures that your procedure dictates. The order is later entered to the CMMS and closed/filed.

* Paperless based systems: (No order/paper printed)
*** Method A: Memory: the technician read/memorize the complete order, goes to the roof, do whatever he/she remembers... (anyone risking trying this ?)

*** Method B: Use portable device: Order is downloaded to a portable computer device, the technician travels the plant with the device, records the execution of the order, add comments, signs etc. electronically at the device. Later the device is connected to the computer network and the order is updated with the information recorded/entered at the device. Or, the portable device is connected wireless and transmit data to have the CMMS real time updated with the order execution.

Paperless but not gadgetless...