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hi friends:

how can i know the weight of rotor to estimate the weight of trial mass i must put ???

thanks in advanse for every one help.
best regrds
 
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Rotor or machine drawings are the best bet. Sometimes in the operating and maintenance manuals the rotor weight will be listed for crane and rigging purposes.


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Sometimes a freight bill or invoice isn't too far off either.


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If you get a good look at the rotor, you can try to esimate the volume and multiply by density although this is just a rough number.

If it is a small NEMA frame motor, many of the manufacturers have the rotor weight available in their internet one-line documentation (I think Siemens and Reliance do).

But more often the only number available is the entire motor weight (rotor plus stator). You can roughly estimate the rotor weight from total weight using info from the following link:

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=99081

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Each manufacturer has different practices but for integral motors ( 1 to 500 HP) as the frame sizes and HP pole are NEMA regulated, the weight of the rotor is related to the stator outside diameter (OD1) and Rotor outside diameter (OD2) relation (R). R=OD1/OD2

For the core lamination:
RW (rotor weight) =(OD2^2*pi/4)*L*d
SW (stator core weight) = (OD1^2*pi/4)*L*d - (OD2^2*pi/4)*L*d
= (OD1^2 – OD2^2)*pi/4*L*d
L= core length and d steel lamination density.

SW/RW= (OD1^2-OD2^2) /OD2^2 = R^2-1

The windings could be considered following the same relation, most of the rotor bars are aluminum.

In general the laminations have three ratios:
for 2 poles R=2
for 4 poles R=1.666
For 6 or more poles R=1.5

For a given frame size the Frame, End-brackets, bearings and shaft are constant and will take around 25% of the total weight for ODP and 35% for TEFC.

EG. 50 HP, 4 Poles, 60 HZ. 460 V, TEFC, Frame 326T, Total Weight 795 LB.

Structure weight~ .35*795 = 278.25 LB

then;
SW + RW = 795-357.75 = 516.75
SW/RW=1.666^2-1 = 1.775

Solving the two equations,

SW= 330.53 Lb
RW=186.22 Lb

This is only an approximation; the variation of results could be very rough from motor to motor
 
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