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Rusty, I have not used the balance module of the 2130 yet. If it is as straight forward as the alignment module I think I’m going to like it. Our stand alone alignment equipment is nice, but I was impressed with what the 2130 could do.
 
Posts: 9 | Location: Wilton, Iowa | Registered: 08 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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If the definition of a true two channel is the ability to calculate the transfer function at all frequencies + display of B/A for coherence and transmissibility, then I guess the 2130 is the only real 2-channel out there. Does that mean Commtest, Pruftechnik, SKF et al are taking us for a ride? Is there any sense in buying those at all then?

Regards,

Aditya
 
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Dear All,
It was very nice reading replies to this subject over the past 3 years.I dont know if much of ur opinions have changed so far.
I wonderd about DLI prouducts not being of so much interest in the disscution.I belive the Expert alert soft ware is a very powerfull tool in the OEM world.It saves you very much of ur valuable time by making the analysis simple.
I would like to read on ur comments on this.
B/R


best regards

Abdallah Taha
 
Posts: 5 | Location: saudia arabia | Registered: 04 June 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hey Nate - hows the new toy performing.
Up to expects?

Mike.
 
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It saves you very much of ur valuable time by making the analysis simple.


And therein lies the problem.... as discussions on this board illustrate, many vibration problems are not at all "simple" even though we'd like them to be. Many "systems" that try to make complex issues "simple" just don't work, because it's just not possible.


Regards,

Rusty
 
Posts: 1059 | Location: Arkansas | Registered: 20 February 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I have seen the DLI in operation and was amazed how well it performed and did its diagnostics and basically as far as PdM goes - it really did a good job on all observed. I was impressed. Remember; we're doing PdM for the most part and not vibration analyses trouble-shooting complex problems. There is a difference and should be a seperation I think.


Cordially,
Sam

 
Posts: 1418 | Location: Eastern USA | Registered: 04 August 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Good point, Sam. I suppose we should work at making "detection" via PdM as easy as possible, which would allow more time to do the requisite "diagnostics".


Regards,

Rusty
 
Posts: 1059 | Location: Arkansas | Registered: 20 February 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Originally posted by Danny Harvey:
Vibeguy,

As I understand it, the Commtest cannot collect route data in 2 channels simultaneously. Am I mistaken, because that is one of the CSI tools like Rusty described that is a real timesaver that can greatly increase efficiency?

I also seem to remember from the demo that there were a few higher end diagnostics in the 2120-2 and Consultant that the VB3000 couldn't do.

I really liked the software, price and support from Commtest, though.



The new Commtest vb7s do allow for simultaneous data collection on 2 channels. I was a Beta tester for these units and while the speed of a 2120 or 2130 per bearing is not as fast, they are solid data collectors. The technical support Commtest provides is great. They are kind of cumbersome when doing extra analysis in that you have to push a couple more buttons but the analysis parameters are plentiful. The analysis software is much more functional than RBMware in that it is a true Windows program...plus the are a lot cheaper than CSI.
 
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Originally posted by Aditya:
If the definition of a true two channel is the ability to calculate the transfer function at all frequencies + display of B/A for coherence and transmissibility, then I guess the 2130 is the only real 2-channel out there. Does that mean Commtest, Pruftechnik, SKF et al are taking us for a ride? Is there any sense in buying those at all then?


SKF's Microlog is an emulated 2 channel.
Regards,

Aditya
 
Posts: 2 | Location: Kansas City, Louisiana, Alabama | Registered: 03 January 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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But; PdM route collection - DLI does 3 ch or will do a triax all at once.


Cordially,
Sam

 
Posts: 1418 | Location: Eastern USA | Registered: 04 August 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Areva, Crystal instruments Benstone, IO tech, NI etc all have 2-8 channels and can do transfer functions etc. Diagnostics instruments (brought by SKF) are two channel they can collect data on both channels at the same time and lately SKF and soon Entek have released FRF software for their latest data collectors. Commtest can collect upto 4 channels at once (have you tried the 6 pack function Wow its fast!) again all the data is there for FRF and I believe they will add this feature in the future. So the CSI 2130 is not the only true two channel instrument.
 
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