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I have some upcoming work on a machine with a vintage late-60's or early 70's IRD rack and non-contacting proximity probes. I seem to recall that back then IRD had a strange scale factor, not the "typical" 200 mv/mil per API spec.

Anyone remember what the scale factor is?

Thanks,
John
 
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Around that time, didn't Bently Nevada make the proximity probes for IRD? If so, you may be able to check in house.


Regards,
Bill

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Before 1971, IRD used a shielded probe that, as far as I know, was not made by Bently. It had a shorter range than Bently's but supposedly was much sturdier than the Bently probes of the same era. I installed a few of those systems but I don't remember the sensitivity although I think you are correct in saying that it wasn't 200 mv/mil. In that era, Bently had some probes with other sensitivities which I remember because I installed Metrix Datawatch monitors on a set of power plant pumps that came with Bently probes and proximotors and had to modify the Metrix hardware because they were set for 200 mv/mil only.


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John,

Do you know what rack it is?? I may be able to help if I knew the model number of the rack or probes, either one.

Dave
 
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I don't think it was the probe but the instrument. 200 mV P-P or 100 mV 0-P by rms or 70.7 to correct the EU to 1 mil. So you should be able to use 100 depending on the instrumentation you're using now. Don't tell me you're using a SD-240.


Cordially,
Sam Pickens
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I also remember IRD racks of that vintage having positive gap voltage rather than negative. I don't remember scale factors, but I do remember having to mess around with scale factors till I found one that matched to monitor scale....


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John,

I am going to assume you are working with what would certainly be obsolete racks, so I will list a couple of the factors for you for different systems. The calibration factors assume a target of 4140 steel. This factor, as you know, will change with different materials.The probe, extension cable, and probe driver were usually ordered together as a system, and calibrated as such using the dial indicators and a target.

The 403-250 NCPU, has a sensitivity of 60 mV/mil. 200 mil gap nominal. It uses -24V power supply.

The differential expansion system, PN 26400 and 26401 (pickup and power supply/sensor),150 - 650 mils gap, has a sensitivity of 30mV/mil. -24V power.

The signal sensor (probe driver) #8695, which was used in the 70's with a NCPU provided the signal to several different manufacturers monitors. It operated on +24V from the monitor, and had a sensitivity of 200 mV/mil.

The sensor (probe driver) #5362 had an AC output of 240mv RMS/mil pk-pk, and used +24v to power the sensor. About any NCPU would be hooked to it.

There are many combinations of probe,signal conditioner/power supply that were used. SOme of them were special order, some were standard.
If you can come up with the numbers, I may be able to help further.

Thanks,

Dave
 
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