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Dear All,

Anyone know what BS or ISO standard suitable for high speed balancing of rigid rotor (Turbine)? Much tanks to your help.

Thanks- Joe & William,

The steam turbine is rigid rotor and we planned to do a high speed balancing after some modification. However, I am not sure whether ISO1940 is applicable for high speed balancing.

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Sy#,
We have a couple of expander rotors which run at just over 23,000rpm. They run below their first critical and are balanced to G2.5 which gives pretty smooth performance.
Joe Mc Cormack
 
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Rigid rotors can be balanced in any 2 planes. - This is a theorem.

As mentioned turbo-expanders are sucessfully low speed balanced (Read rigid rotor balanced.), and some operate faster than the mentioned 23,000 rpm. Why? Because they are rigid.

Are you sure your turbine ins a rigid rotor? (Note: The balancing standards are changing some terms regarding 'rigid rotor.')

In the last week there was a vote on ISO/FDIS 19499, Mechanical vibration — Balancing —Guidance on the use and application of balancing standards (French title Vibration mécaniques — Équilibrage — Lignes directrices pour l'utilisation et l'application de normes d'équilibrage. This is a guide to balancing standards. The US voted to approve it; if approved by the ISO countries this will soon be a standard.

19499 provides a guide to what standards would be required for various situations to help people with this type of question.

International voting finishes on 23 June 2007.


Regards,
Bill

Bill.Foiles@bp.com
 
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Perhaps you want to refer to API RP for Repair of Rotors.

Doesn't the OEM specify the balancing standard in their manual?
 
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To me, the phrase "high speed balancing" implies that you are in a shop and you intentionally try to recreate the operating machine speed (correct?). Perhaps in a vacuum pit?

If that's the kind of balancing you're doing, I would suggest it is not a rigid rotor. Because all that trouble to recreate operating speed is not required for a truly rigid rotor... a rigid rotor can be balanced at any speed below running speed.
 
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ISO 19499 was approved with corrections.


Regards,
Bill

Bill.Foiles@bp.com
 
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