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Hi guys,

During our routine IR checking of transformers,we come across this image!! Seems like some of the plates are blocked or damaged.. What do you think? Will there be any immediate cosequences due to this problem?

Have a nice day!!

Transformer Fins
 
Posts: 266 | Location: Saudi Arabia | Registered: 27 February 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I'm assuming this is an oil filled transformer and you are looking at the cooling tubes? If so, YES, this is a problem because it can result in the transformer overheating. Industry guidelines suggest a 10C rise in oil temperature results in a 50% loss of transformer life! Expensive.

Often the cause of this problem is low oil, but we have also seen any number of other root causes including valves being closed, rags stuffed in the tube, and out of level. I would strongly recommend you followup to find the root cause and check again after repairs have been made.


John Snell
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Thank you John,

Yes, itz an oil filled transformer and we were looking at the cooling tubes..

If 10ºC rise will cause 50% of transformer life, then itz a real problem..

But is there any acceptable range of temperatures for these transformers? Mine is ONAN/STC make; 1000KVA, 13.8KV/400V, 1440A transformer..

Have a nice day!!
 
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YES! All transformers are rated to operate at a certain temperature and a certain rise over ambient. Check with your manufacturer for the spec on this one.


John Snell
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Posts: 77 | Location: Vermont | Registered: 16 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Practically speaking, the factor of 2 change in insulation lifetime per 10C is only important when you are operating at a temperature where thermal degradation is significant.

Oil-filled transformers are generally rated for a 55C (older) or 65C (newer) rise of average winding temperature over ambient temperature (listed on the nameplate). Additionally, there may be a 10-15C allowance for hot-spot rise over average winding temperature rise. These are continuous ratings assuming a 30C ambient with 40C daytime peaks. Top oil temperature often is in the same neighborhood as average winding temperature.

Your transformer is likely equipped with top oil temperature gage and estimated winding hot-spot temperature gage, including alarms. Often oil temp alarm is in the neighborhood of 90C. Your temperatures do appear much lower at the time of the survey (43C highest visible at external surface of the top oil header ...I'm guessing top oil temperature is no more than 10C above that). Of course if load and ambient temperature changes, everything changes.
 
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Of course if load and ambient temperature changes, everything changes.


...and given the location (Saudi Arabia), I suggest that ANY restriction of cooling is a problem that warrants further investigation. I agree an increase in temperature is typically not instantaneously damaging but degradation does increase, even if incrementally, as temperatures increase.


John Snell
The Snell Group
ASNT NDT Level III Certificate #48166
http://www.thesnellgroup.com
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Posts: 77 | Location: Vermont | Registered: 16 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hi guys,

Thank you for the valuable information..

Actually this transformer is inside an air-conditioned room and now the temperature outside is also very cold.. So there may not be any big problem for 3-4 months..

But i just want to know how frequent people are doing thermal surveys on their Transformers?

Have a nice day and Happy New Year in advance!! Smiler
 
Posts: 266 | Location: Saudi Arabia | Registered: 27 February 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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You don't happen to have an air conditioner fan blowing on this transformer do you Confused
I thought this thing was outside. Inside an air conditioned room would make me want to hang some ribbon around and see what the air currents inside the room are doing.Looks to me like one is blowing air on the cooling fins.

Dave
 
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Dave,

Itz not like that.. The room is airconditioned.. There are 10 transformers in that room and the air is not blowing directly to the cooling fins anyway.. We didn't find any problem for the rest of the transformers.. Only this one is showing difference in fin temperatures..
Sorry for confusing you!! Smiler

Have a nice day and Happy New Year!!
 
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