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The old ISO cleanliness code was particles > 2/5/15 microns.
The new ISO cleanliness code was particles > 4/6/14 microns.

We have some limits given on old code and oil analysis results given in new code, so I am interested in being able to understand/estimate the difference and possibly restate the old limits in terms of the new code (I realize I can compute either one if I have the raw data particle size distribution, but that's not my question.)

I always figured that if I analysed a sample distribution under the two codes, based on difference in cutoff points, the old code might result in a higher range number on the first and second numbers, while the new code might result in a higher range number on the third number (right?). For example, a given sample which was 21/18/15 under the old code MIGHT be 20/17/16 under the new code (right?). The exact difference would depend on actual particle distribution.

Now I see a chart which seems like it might be trying to address this issue but I don't know how to read the chart.
Take a look at Table 2 of the following article (you have to click on the Table 2 link after you get there)
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/article_detail.asp?...okgroup=Lubrication2

What is this table trying to tell me?

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Posts: 3113 | Location: Texas Gulf Coast | Registered: 20 February 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Pete,

I don't think the chart is what you are looking for.

I just returned from a Noria training class last week. We went over this exact table. What this chart is trying to tell you is that if you increase your cleanliness levels you will get X amount of improved life from your machine. The box in the lower left relates to the 4 numbers in the other boxes in the table.

For instance if you take your current cleanliness level at a 21/18 and improve it to a 16/13 you could possibly see an improvement in equipment life/performance by a factor of 4 for hydraulic systems and diesel engines and a factor of 2.5 for rolling element bearings, 3 X for journal bearing machines and 2X for gearboxes.
 
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Thanks Mike. That makes sense now.

Unless I missed something, there was no description at all in the article or table regarding what the table means.
 
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MikeC is correct, that is just a life extension table that noria publish.
The new codes are very similar in the results given. The new ISO 4406:99 may give a slightly higher reading but this is negligible. Go to this link How the new ISO Particle Count will affect you.
 
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Thanks Mate. It looks like that article addresses the differences well. I will have to take some time to digest it.
 
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