We have done the Pareto's analysis but the time to prepare and change subsequently is time-consuming due to data gathering. What criteria do you use to plot the graph on the vertical axis? I seek clarifications to compare with my data & what I do for continuous improvement, not to be a spectator.

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Josh,

What do you think? Have you attempted with any of the performance criteria that we have been speaking about here for the last few months? What were the results? Were they results you could decipher as a point of pain for the organization?

Let me know so we can look at this.

Also; have you tried to implement any of the improvement methods here that we have been speaking about over the past few months? How long did it take YOU to move the pareto analyses?

Also; have you had the discussion with your contemporaries and work mates to date regarding data capture and business processes? What was the result? How far are you taking this information that you are collecting here or is it all just theoretical still.

Rgds,

We used lost production. Took several months to collect data, mainly trip reports. But the actual cause is difficult to finalize by discipline, only go by eqpt. 1 pareto analysis can be solved within 1 turnaround interval in our case.

We have just finished a company-wide survey on reliablity mgmt system which have many elements to evaluate against. The same thing is done at organization level. Certainly info from this forum is meaningful & appreciated in undertanding reliablity. Thank you very much for your inputs.

Josh,

Lost production was the only measure you used on the vertical axis? What about the other direct performance measures? Have any of those been used? (Availability, MTBF, MTTR, etc etc Direct performance measures)Do you think it is adequate as a measure? Why are you not able to get down to the discipline level? Is it an issue regarding work order coding and data capture or is it an issue relating to the complexity of the plant and the amount of work that people are carrying out daily?

Have you tried to analyse, on your pareto, if any of this work is from reqork? How would YOU analyse that? Do you, in your company, have a strong understandiong and reading on the levels of rework that are undertaken?

Am really curious regarding the last two areas:

What reliability and improvement initiatives from the forum are you implementing? what are the results? Are you changing your pareto analyses?

Have you had the discussion with your peers yet as to how and who shold record data? It seems you already have processes in place to do so from your responses elsewhere, so why the question? What do your counterparts think? Are they aware of this train of thought if not how can YOU make them aware of it?

Rgds,

Thanks for the info on using more direct performance measures. The difficulty is no discipline will willingly accept their fault. We are not going to quarrel about it, are we?

Rework is very dificult to measure, again because nobody will be willing to say it's rework if using user status to indicate. So have to do manual analysis for repeat works with 3 months by same discipline, same activty code & same eqpt & ask them to review which is not so quick to do. Any advice?

We have 2 big programs: 1st on CMMS to fully utilise it & 2nd on Reliability MS which is very extensive to me so I have asked many questions to understand those ideas better 7 also to doublecheck. Also reading books but asking questions get more quality answers.

For data collection, we have defined during the CMMS a minimum set of data entries. We are now in the sustainability phase of the CMMS program. It feels good to know what others are doing quite similarly across the geograpghy. Again thanks for your inputs. It's Friday nite here, going somewhere. Rgds