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oju
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I have a question that I can't seem to find an answer on. Does anyone know of a CMMS program that does a very good job of integrating PdM findings into it. Anything that give the technician the ability to do the reporting of findings into the software and then can bring in infrared images or vibration graphs. Seems like all I am finding is doubling up on the work. Anyone who can shed some light on how they are doing this would be great!..


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OJ
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Utter Precision, Inc.
The Next Generation in Reliability
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Posts: 41 | Location: Nebraska | Registered: 04 January 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hi OJ. I don't know if this is along the lines you are looking for:
http://www.ivara.com/main.php?tID=0

We haven't used it however I was investigating something similar some time ago.
Unfortunately we are not yet at the stage anyone would probably take me seriously.

I would suggest checking this out but be careful when talking about fully automising your system. I think you always need an "overseer" with any cm just to make sure you are efficiently spotting the problem areas.
Automation is great for economisation however nothing replaces the trained eye and human intellect.

Mike.
 
Posts: 250 | Location: NewZealand | Registered: 29 June 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Vendor Warning

Hi OJ

You could take a look at MAINTelligence, its an integrated CMMS/PdM package that has the ability to act as a complete maintenance and reliability package by itself, or it can operate as a reliability "front end" to ERP/EAM systems like SAP, MAXIMO, Indus, Oracle, etc.

You can manage all of your PdM data
- vibration (both periodic and online - and no, you don't need another software package, MAINTelligence does everything you need)
- oil analysis, whether you send samples to an outside lab or have your own equipment
- ultrasonics (direct interfaces to both UE and SDT equipment)
- thermography - Fluke TiXX series cameras now, others in the near future
- Windows Mobile handhelds for operator rounds, lube rounds, safety rounds etc.

Any and all of the types of data collected by these techniques (trends, bar graphs, spectra, waveforms, orbits, polar plots, circular waveforms, notes, images, thermo images) can be put on a single report. These reports can be automatically generated.

Alarms from any of these data sets can trigger work orders in MAINTelligence itself, or send work requests/notifications to other EAM systems. Alarms can be sent to you as email or to your pager. MAINTelligence can let you generate work items automatically, or you can set up multiple levels of approval before the work is triggered. Your choice.

If you want to take it to the extreme, you can create your own diagnostic package for PdM using MAINTelligence's rule editor - this allows you not just to automate the report data, but also your analysis.

Regards

Steve Reilly
DMSI Home Page
MAINTelligence
 
Posts: 26 | Location: Vancouver, Canada | Registered: 16 April 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Steve R

Where do you store the files or data for the PdM?

About using the alarms to auto-generate WOs, this is quite a standard feature of any CMMS. Up to usres to use it or not.
 
Posts: 2596 | Location: Borneo | Registered: 13 February 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hi Josh

All PdM data is stored in the MAINTelligence data repository. This includes file-based data such as documents, images or thermographic images. MAINTelligence stores these files as bitstreams in the database, and regenerates them if they need to be opened as files.

Vibration data such as FFTs and time waveforms are stored in the database as vectors.

Generating a work order based on a trend alarm is a feature found in some CMMSes. Generating a work order based on a rule such as

"if there exists synchronous peaks in the spectrum taken in a radial plane at 1xRPM and 2xRPM, and at least one other synchronous peak whose frequency is greater than 2xRPM", generate a work order "Check equipment for looseness", well, not many CMMSes can do that...

Steve
 
Posts: 26 | Location: Vancouver, Canada | Registered: 16 April 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hi Steve,

Are you currently using Maintelligence? I have vendor coming in next week for a lunch and learn and he' been talking about this program.

Also, does it interface with SAP without much trouble?

Thanks,

Steve West
 
Posts: 2 | Location: Boston, MA | Registered: 05 December 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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SR

Rules based on vibration limits can be set in CMMS. But to do the diagnosis, it requires all rules to be well-defined in advanced and an expert system is needed then. Do you have the possible diagnoses in your system? Do you "unknown"?
 
Posts: 2596 | Location: Borneo | Registered: 13 February 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Rules based on vibration limits can be set in CMMS
, I am with Steve that this a feature not common to ordinary cmms or even SAP. If even the humans have problems with the guess work or setting limits... Maybe you when you have a vibration switch tied to a DCS en when tripping it notifies the operator in the control room, but expecting that the equipment generates its own work order telling what is wrong..Big Grin Big Grin


Steven van Els, CMRP
 
Posts: 863 | Location: Suriname | Registered: 16 June 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I guess I rephrase what I mean: Vibration limits (which I refer to rules) can be set in CMMS but not the diagnotic part i.e. what when wrong.
 
Posts: 2596 | Location: Borneo | Registered: 13 February 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Steve, from your description it seems to me that MAINTeligance is an Electronic Data Management System, (EDMS) specially geared to store electronic information (forms, raw data) common in PdM applications.
Am I correct?


Steven van Els, CMRP
 
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Vendor Warning

To Steve West - I work for DMSI - we make the MAINTelligence software. So, I do use the system, but I would not consider myself an unbiased reference Smiler

As for the SAP interface, MAINTelligence has a couple of different types of interfaces to SAP - the BAPI interface is relatively straighforward to set up, the XI/Netweaver interface is more involved to set up. Both interface types require IT involvement.

To Josh - MAINTelligence has a full PdM expert system engine integrated within it. Diagnostics from the engine can be used to raise alarms/send emails, route data to historian systems like PI, or raise maintenance notifications / work requests in systems like SAP / MAXIMO etc.

To Steven Van Els - MAINTelligence is currently used as a PdM system, a CMMS system , a TPM/rounds management system, a document management system, or any combination of the above.

Underneath the surface, MAINTelligence is a data repository with a user configurable metadata editor (sorry about the tech terms, but these aren't buzzwords - its exactly what MAINTelligence is). There are multiple ways of importing data into the repository (instrument drivers, Excel, ODBC, OPC etc.) and data in the repository are accessed/viewed using a series of output editors (graphs, reports, queries, alarms, calculations and rules). Design your own graphs, reports, alarm types, rules etc.

Regards

Steve Reilly
DMSI
 
Posts: 26 | Location: Vancouver, Canada | Registered: 16 April 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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So, the origin of this MaintIntelligence is from Pdm software....
 
Posts: 2596 | Location: Borneo | Registered: 13 February 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hello Josh

The origin of MAINTelligence was from three older systems, one for vibration diagnostics, one for lubricant analysis data management and the other for maintenance planning and scheduling.

MAINTelligence was developed as a single system able to meet the requirements for all of the above, and added operator rounds/inspection handheld management for good measure.

Regards

Steve Reilly
DMSI
 
Posts: 26 | Location: Vancouver, Canada | Registered: 16 April 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Ok SR, I got the point and also the invitation below, for those who are intrested:

http://www.sapcenter.com/webinars/invitation.htm

Hope it's a good marriage btw a finance-originated software with maintenance-originated software.
 
Posts: 2596 | Location: Borneo | Registered: 13 February 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Steve Reilly,

Thank you, I'll have few things to ask the rep tommorow.

Steve West
 
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