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There are a few around. Here is one, besides the comments in the page are not so good.
http://www.plant-maintenance.com/books/0831131543.shtml

Anyone here have read this book and has a different opinion?

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Darth Eugene Vader
 
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Had a quick look at the link/book referred to by Eugene, the review on it is not very encouraging.
I've used and referred to a book, which provides a broader scope on Facility/Equipment Mtce Mgmt, yet has covered PMs/PdMs quite extensively.
Try this...Facility Manager's Operation & Maintenance Handbook by Bernard T. Lewis; availble on www.amazon.ca
 
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Aromatics,
There are things that can be learned or obtained from a book and things that can't. Can you explain what you are wanting to learn or find out in a little more detail and perhaps some of us can be a little more specific.
Steve
 
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Originally posted by Eugene:
There are a few around. Here is one, besides the comments in the page are not so good.
http://www.plant-maintenance.com/books/0831131543.shtml

Anyone here have read this book and has a different opinion?


I've raise PR and cancel at the same time after read complain review


Panuphan B.
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PTT Aromatics and Refining Public Company Limited
 
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Josh,
Somewhere through this discussion someone (I think it was you) asked some detailed questions about the type of maintenance I was talking about that operators do.
Attached is a sample spreadsheet of what the operators do in this chemical plant every shift.
Sorry it has taken a little bit of time to find. I did not have the data on my computer and have been a bit busy.
Regards
Steve

Excel SpreadsheetpmoTaskReview.xls (53 Kb, 33 downloads) Operator Tasks at a chemical plant
 
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Thanks Steve. Now I see why your figure for operator PM is very high ie because you include operator monitoring as PM whereas we don't include them. Anyway, your approach is very good from a consolidated plant management side.
 
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Steve,

I think, that file is a standard routine check of operators.


Panuphan B.
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Good post and excellent replies.

I would only add that with involvement from all parties and continual ‘fine tuning’ of the process through interdepartmental interaction, a PM program has the chance to be successful adding true value. Input from all departments is crucial for a recipe of success.

Gary
 
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I've raise PR and cancel at the same time after read complain review


One of my coworkers has the book and he loves it, the guy has a computer programming background he does the detailed planning (microsoft project), pokes around in the CMMS etc..
He attended a workshop of Joel Levitt

There are books and books

There are practical books and there are academic books Big Grin

If you are in a new organization, with nothing in place and the plant is already running, please don't read "moubray, rcm, rcm2, weibull and the whole circus" , read stuff from Levitt and Wireman

If the organization is already consolidated and you have a lot of spare academic types wandering around, people who can find their way in statistics, data analyzing, data warehousing etc.., go ahead with the academic stuff.

If you need to set up a lubrication plan for a machine, you need practical stuff, not a discussion about P-F interfalls


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Practical and right to the point, the kind needed when solving every day Maintenance Engineering problems.

When to use academic ones?
* When preparing a tesis for the Master Degree you are trying to finish on nights and saturdays...
* when writting a proposal for the beanies approval?


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Eugene do you think that the beanies know who Dr Wallodi Weibull was and what he achieved?

Talking about RCM1 and RCM2? It might be better to have a chat with them in greek Big Grin


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By the way Eugene, I thought you already had gone undercover Big Grin Big Grin, you have been silent lately


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Just finishing a project, much documentation to process, get approvals, etc. Details of being at pharma industry.


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Eugene do you think that the beanies know who Dr Wallodi Weibull was and what he achieved?

Not even if trying to help them with his complete name: Ernst Hjalmar Waloddi Weibull Big Grin


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Guys... Might I put the case that RCM is not complex in itself. RCM is simple stuff and I can explain it to any accountant in 20 minutes (unless they are deaf).
Engineers and statisticians have made it complex - why I dont know - perhaps to get a doctorate in it.
So long as you understand the principles of RCM task selection you can practice RCM.
The principles of RCM Task selection are that there are only four maintenance options. Three apply to evident failures and one applies to hidden. Options for evident failures are:
1. CBM
2. Fixed Tiime Replacement regardless of condition
3. No Scheduled Maintenance

For hidden failures you can test the hidden functions to see if there have been failiures or not.

There are some rules about how to set these intervals, but these rules are not complex if you are looking for setting tasks within orders of magnitude.

Please dont get influenced by those people selling highly statistical packages... they have very limitied application. You can certainly do RCM without high level statistics... In 25 years I have never used anything more than a histogram or pareto chart.
Steve
 
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By the way Eugene, I thought you already had gone undercover Big Grin Big Grin, you have been silent lately

And lost one of the top 10 positions? ... Nah !


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