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If we not have a standard time before, how to do the maintenance standard time?

Use the actual time for each job and make to baseline or standard time?

Please suggestion the best way to implement.


Panuphan B.
Maintenance Information Manager
PTT Aromatics and Refining Public Company Limited
 
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I think there is a book which contains standard times for estimating construction works but not sure for maintenance works. Just have to start somewhere I guess.
 
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If you don't finding a standard (like the construction estimating reference that Josh mentions) applicable you will have to develop your own by using last years averages as baseline and revise those averages over the time.


Darth Eugene Vader
 
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What are you using the standard time for on maintenance work?
 
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Another alternative is design and implement a Time Study to calculate the standrd yourself. but that may prove to be expensive which returns to Don Jones' question of for what would you use the standards and then does it justify the Time Study costs?


Darth Eugene Vader
 
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Before you have a standard time you need to have a standard job. For condition based maintenance, not all the jobs are standard because in some cases repairs are done at the time.
It may not pay to be too academic about these things.
Our suggestion is to make a paper assesment as a start, then review the time the work is first completed. We prefer to make the time in the computer as the minimum time .... the planner looks at this minimum time and adds time to allow for the expected unexpected if you know what I mean.
Trying to be too clever with standards takes us back 50 years in work study and the negative cultural responses.
Nothing is fact - just some opinions here.
Steve
 
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Originally posted by Don Jones:
What are you using the standard time for on maintenance work?


I use for maintenance work such as repair/replace, the reason, we use to compare actual/baseline and for improve labor productivity and develop the optimun time to repair and so far. If we don't know the job can be done on duration, how to control it?


Panuphan B.
Maintenance Information Manager
PTT Aromatics and Refining Public Company Limited
 
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Panuphan,
I have heard of companies that set up standard times for work (jobs) to be completed. They established those times by using their own time studies. Someone in-house that had time to track the job either did time studies or an outside vendor did the study. There are so many variables to set a time standard, as time studies by their self are time consuming.

Could a study like this get done and be useful by using a CMMS system?

Don
 
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Are there an university with a industrial engineering program nearby? Ind. Eng. students in their last years of BS could perform the time studies as part of their education with practically no harm to your budget.


Darth Eugene Vader
 
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Eugene, at least you have to give the guy a hard hat, safety shoe, safety glasses and some training/introduction.

If you send some "greenhorn" into the field unprepared "funny" things can happen. I don't think that you want somebody coughing onto your pot medicinal syrup Big Grin

This is a true story:
Young inexperienced contractor (cleaner) has to bring a message to "mount Olympos" and faces Thor (the god of thunder) in one of his bad days.
Contractor-boy gets scared, jumps outside and peeps through the glass door if some helpful soul has mercy to bring the message across.
Nobody in sight so he notices the BIG RED BUTTON, next to the door and assumes it is the door bell.
Guess what happens, the guy almost p.. in his pants, the horn blows and everybody wakes up!!
Main building on fire!!! Big Grin Big Grin


Steven van Els, CMRP
 
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We always have spare hard hats, safety glasses and stuff like that for visitors like the Big Beannie from the Corporate Mt Olympus who come once or two times a year to meet with the local beannies and want to do a plant tour.

Those visits are a good thing, without them we would not be allowed to paint or repair some plant areas which are always too busy to stop. But, since Mr. Big Beannie will come in two weeks everybody want their areas looking good.


Darth Eugene Vader
 
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